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    Default Shahrukh khan Vs Shiv Sena

    The recent comments made by Sharukh Khan on the inclusion of Pakistani players in IPL has created new controversies. However it should be noted that Shahrukh Khan never told that he prefers the Pakistani players than the Indians. He was saying that as the rules of IPL allows him to hire 4 foreign players, he could have hired the Pakistani players for his team. This decision does not establish himself as a pro-Pakistani person. In every occasion, Shahrukh Khan has been reiterating his spirit of nationalism.

    But it’s also true that looking at the gravity of the Mumbai attack and the role of Pakistan in it, he should have been refrained from making such comments. It was usual for India to disallow the Pakistani players in IPL as a mark of protest. An incident like Mumbai attack should be blamed in the strongest possible way. It will be wrong to say that cricket and politics should not be mixed. Because what happened in Mumbai attack was not a mere politics. It was an assault on humanity. And India can take all possible measures to protest against such act of terrorism.

    At the same time, it is observed that, Shiv Sena should not take undue advantage of such incident. Because of the increasing influence of MNS, Shiv Sena is losing its ground. And it needs issues to re-strengthen its position amongst the masses. No topic other than Bollywood and cricket influence the ordinary citizens of India. Making most of the opportunity, Shiv Sena has chosen this issue to get some cheap publicity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Divya_Sharma View Post
    The recent comments made by Sharukh Khan on the inclusion of Pakistani players in IPL has created new controversies. However it should be noted that Shahrukh Khan never told that he prefers the Pakistani players than the Indians. He was saying that as the rules of IPL allows him to hire 4 foreign players, he could have hired the Pakistani players for his team. This decision does not establish himself as a pro-Pakistani person. In every occasion, Shahrukh Khan has been reiterating his spirit of nationalism.
    Freedom of Speech is one of the Fundamental Rights guaranteed by the charter of rights contained in the Constitution of India. Just because Shahrukh Khan is a Muslim, it doesn't get obliterated automatically. He is an Indian first, as much as I am and the Indian Constitution guarantees every right to Shahrukh too. He has spoken his mind, I am - mine.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divya_Sharma View Post
    But it’s also true that looking at the gravity of the Mumbai attack and the role of Pakistan in it, he should have been refrained from making such comments.
    True. If Shahrukh was so concerned about that, why did he being an owner of the Kolkata Knight Riders did not pick any Pakistani player. Is it not double standards? He too should draw the line somewhere and stick to it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divya_Sharma View Post
    It was usual for India to disallow the Pakistani players in IPL as a mark of protest.
    Wrong. No one from GoI disallowed Pakistani players in IPL. IPL is a private affair. GoI had already issued visas to 11 Pakistani players even before the bidding started for IPL-III.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divya_Sharma View Post
    An incident like Mumbai attack should be blamed in the strongest possible way.
    Right! But GoI have not been anywhere close to being there. See, we are already starting talks with Pakistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divya_Sharma View Post
    It will be wrong to say that cricket and politics should not be mixed. Because what happened in Mumbai attack was not a mere politics. It was an assault on humanity. And India can take all possible measures to protest against such act of terrorism.
    I agree. If we have to cut ties, sever everything.

    Then there are these breed of people from both sides of the border who would chant that Music and Sports should not be mixed with politics and blah blah.
    Are Music and Sports more than the blood of innocent Indians killed by terrorists sent in by Pakistan? If not, then 'Shut Up Morons'.

    Quote Originally Posted by Divya_Sharma View Post
    At the same time, it is observed that, Shiv Sena should not take undue advantage of such incident. Because of the increasing influence of MNS, Shiv Sena is losing its ground. And it needs issues to re-strengthen its position amongst the masses. No topic other than Bollywood and cricket influence the ordinary citizens of India. Making most of the opportunity, Shiv Sena has chosen this issue to get some cheap publicity.
    Why are we even talking about these rowdy organisations? I am a Hindu, but I am ashamed of these organizations.

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    Default Shahrukh just followed the trend in IPL

    We can't assume that Shahrukh Khan did not take any Pakistani player in his team by his own choice. When all the other teams are rejecting Pakistani players, Shahrukh would not have the guts to include Pakistani players in his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pankajIndian View Post
    We can't assume that Shahrukh Khan did not take any Pakistani player in his team by his own choice. When all the other teams are rejecting Pakistani players, Shahrukh would not have the guts to include Pakistani players in his team.
    What's the connection there? You mean Shahrukh Khan is gutless? I think he is more than what we think he is. Shrewd would be the correct word.

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    Default SRK could not go against the wave

    Shahrukh is not gutsless. But he did not have the courage to go against the decision/trend of all the other IPL team owners. That's why he could not include the Pakistani players in his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pr0udy View Post
    Shahrukh is not gutsless. But he did not have the courage to go against the decision/trend of all the other IPL team owners. That's why he could not include the Pakistani players in his team.
    Maybe. But look the other way round'. Pakistan had a whitewash of a series in Australia. T20 does not test the character of a cricketer, Test Matches does. And intellectuals from across the border were screaming that we insulted World Champions.

    And immediately, Shahid Afridi was caught by cameras tampering with the ball. We do not need cheats now in IPL, do we?

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    At different points of time, the celebrities express their view. And sometime such views hurt the sentiments of a section of the society or an organization or the whole nation and create unfavorable situations.

    After the IPL and Pakistani players controversy sparked by the comments of Shahrukh Khan, the actor is silent. He is neither giving any statement nor any clarification. What does this silence mean? Has Shahrukh Khan left Mumbai and staying (hiding) at Dubai? . it was his responsibility to express his views and stand by the fact that he believes to be right. Staying away from situation like this will only worsen the situation. It will also give more chances to the opportunists to take undue advantage like congress party.

    Was it blown out or proportion? Did he mean something else when he told that he should have included Pakistani players in his team? It may be a slip of tongue or slip of thoughts , the damage is already done that cannot be compensated. Yet, the situation can be normal now if Shahrukh says something.

    There is no fault to say sorry to the nation or to the people of India if he expressed some views that might hurt the sentiment of the people of his own country.

    What should be the right step that should be taken by Shah RukhKhan to pacify the situation? Can anyone comment?

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    Right after the 26/11 attacks, there was a debate in some news channel and Simi Garewal said that there are Muslims in India who fly Pakistani Flags on their roop-tops. Someone from the audience then very strongly objected to her. This is the power of Indian democracy.

    After a while, in an interview, Shahrukh Khan said that he is afraid to comment on the Mumbai attacks, lest people infer something else. He then went on to say that "a certain lady said that we Muslims in India fly Pakistani Flags, but it is a Muslim flag, and not a Pakistani flag".

    A certain lady??? Does he not know Simi Garewal? Obnoxious moron....
    And he did not comment on 26/11 not because of someone interpreting him wrong, but for his movies. His films earns quite an amount across the border.
    And, Shahrukh as a known personality of India should have condemned 26/11 right after the attacks. He did not, and if he has done so after some days/weeks,then I don't know, nor am I interested to know.

    And why the hell should anyone fly flags of their community in a democracy? Parsis don't do that, nor do Hindus or for that matter any other community. Why they have to be so different from others, and remain aloof. All this while they complain that this Nation have not given them anything. What have they given back to India? And if it hurts that much, why did not they move into Pakistan in 1947?

    They remain segregated from mainstream India, mingle with their own community. Who the hell would block them from becoming a doctor or an engineer or a scientist?

    I am a secular guy, and I am for all religions. But making religion a minority issue every time is something that is blocking their progress as a whole. Cannot they see and think out of the box for once.

    Coming back to the topic....

    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post
    At different points of time, the celebrities express their view. And sometime such views hurt the sentiments of a section of the society or an organization or the whole nation and create unfavorable situations.

    After the IPL and Pakistani players controversy sparked by the comments of Shahrukh Khan, the actor is silent. He is neither giving any statement nor any clarification. What does this silence mean? Has Shahrukh Khan left Mumbai and staying (hiding) at Dubai? . it was his responsibility to express his views and stand by the fact that he believes to be right. Staying away from situation like this will only worsen the situation. It will also give more chances to the opportunists to take undue advantage like congress party.
    If he was a pro nation guy, as he has claimed, Why did not he pick any Pakistani players for his Kolkata Knight Riders? Because, after spending money on them, if they are not available to play in IPL 3, the loss is his right? As simple as that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post
    Was it blown out or proportion? Did he mean something else when he told that he should have included Pakistani players in his team? It may be a slip of tongue or slip of thoughts , the damage is already done that cannot be compensated. Yet, the situation can be normal now if Shahrukh says something.
    Is he mental? He did not pick players for his team, and then comments like a weirdo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post
    There is no fault to say sorry to the nation or to the people of India if he expressed some views that might hurt the sentiment of the people of his own country.

    What should be the right step that should be taken by Shah RukhKhan to pacify the situation? Can anyone comment?
    Shut up for the rest of his life, lest he makes a fool of himself again and continue making stupid m...m...m.......movies.
    Last edited by adrenalin; 12-02-2010 at 11:38 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pankajIndian View Post
    We can't assume that Shahrukh Khan did not take any Pakistani player in his team by his own choice. When all the other teams are rejecting Pakistani players, Shahrukh would not have the guts to include Pakistani players in his team.
    U talk about SRK's guts??
    SRK has stood up against the SHiv Sena,which "was" considered to be having a strong hold in Mumbai(I wrote "was" because Rahul Gandhi had already showed them down on his visit.)
    Srk is an Icon not a puppet.
    he has a strong opinion and a logical one!I respect him for such practical and frank thoughts!!!

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    But Shahrukh should not say something against our national interest. Before being a celebrity he is an Indian first. He also openly expresses it.

    He should say sorry for his remarks.

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