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Old 23-12-2009, 08:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Why some people demands separation?
Why some states want to be independent or separate?

If we analyze the reasons, we find that political aspirations of some leaders are involved behind such demands.

The masses must realize the fact that in India, no one is governed by some alien power. There is nothing like Kashmir is ruled by India or Nagaland is ruled by India. When we say India, Kashmir & Nagaland are also included in it. The central government has representatives from all the states. And the fact is that we are ruling ourselves.

We have to make the masses understood that separation is not going to help the common man in anyway. Only their leaders will be ministers and earn wealth. Secessionism is nothing but a business played with the blood of the common people as the capital.

Empowered by some anti-national power, the separatist leaders are always creating false propaganda and misleading the common people. It’s the time to educate the masses and wipe out the concept of separatism from their minds. Then only we can envision a united India for an endless era.

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Old 24-12-2009, 09:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I guess one thing to note is that it happens in Kashnmir Nagaland, but why not in Mumbai or Bengluru, I guess because there the peolple are well educated busy in their good work they dont involve in such stupid stuffs, I believe that we need to educate people and inculcate the feeling of one nationhood. We will have to understand that when this country gets united for Indian cricket than why not for its welfare, are we the people of India so unaware so stupid that any political party or leader can use us
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Old 26-12-2009, 07:10 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why some people demands separation?
Why some states want to be independent or separate?
Political gains only. Nothing for the good of the common men.

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If we analyze the reasons, we find that political aspirations of some leaders are involved behind such demands.
Bingo!
Look at ULFA. When ULFA was created, their main aim was(as ULFA stated) to check the illegal influx of Bangladeshis into Assam(Which happened before, during and after the 1971 War and creation of Bangladesh). Their second demand was to free Assam from Indian rule i.e independence of Assam.

How is it possible that a terrorist group has flourished for 3 decades? I do not believe there was no political patronage given to them by successive Governments of Assam(Both AGP & Congress) or maybe even the GoI. As ULFA's creation was for political gains, so would be the destruction of ULFA, which we will witness shortly. Also worth mentioning is that, when ULFA was created it was supported blindly by the Assamese people, but not quite right now. People have finally woken up from the hazy ULFA dream.


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The masses must realize the fact that in India, no one is governed by some alien power. There is nothing like Kashmir is ruled by India or Nagaland is ruled by India. When we say India, Kashmir & Nagaland are also included in it. The central government has representatives from all the states. And the fact is that we are ruling ourselves.
Right again! However, we do have things like Dalits, Brahmins, SCs'(Scheduled Castes), STs P&H(Scheduled Tribes - Plains & Hills), OBCs(Other Backward Classes) and we have Bengalis, we have Marathis etc. What we do not have is the feeling of Indianness because our constitution does not give us that. This decades old laws of our Constitution should go, if we are to progress as a Nation. When our Constitution itself divides people on the basis of their birth, sex, caste and creed - people would take advantage. Maywati, Laloo, the Thakerays they are all doing this.

Also there are rules in some parts of India - which states that, if you are born outside place X, then you cannot buy a piece of land in place X. Also, you can vote but cannot stand as a candidate in local elections. There's such rubbish in our laws, that I'm losing my mind right now.


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We have to make the masses understood that separation is not going to help the common man in anyway. Only their leaders will be ministers and earn wealth. Secessionism is nothing but a business played with the blood of the common people as the capital.
Yep, for example Madhu Koda.

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Empowered by some anti-national power, the separatist leaders are always creating false propaganda and misleading the common people. It’s the time to educate the masses and wipe out the concept of separatism from their minds. Then only we can envision a united India for an endless era.
Right! But to counter this we have intelligence agencies like R&AW, IB. What the hell are they doing? I mean look at Pakistan Occupied Kashmir, do we hear people living in POK shouting "We Want Freedom"? No, we do not. Then why people like Mehbooba Mufti and people alike her are thriving? It's because of flawed policies of the GoI which still uses Intelligence Agencies as a Govt. Tool instead of a Strategic one like the ISI.


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I guess one thing to note is that it happens in Kashnmir Nagaland, but why not in Mumbai or Bengluru, I guess because there the peolple are well educated busy in their good work they dont involve in such stupid stuffs, I believe that we need to educate people and inculcate the feeling of one nationhood.
According to 2001 Census:
Net literacy rate in J&K is 54.46%
(Source:Jammu and Kashmir Literacy)
Net literacy rate in Nagaland is 67.11%
(Source:2001 Literacy Figures (Nagaland)), much much better than many other states in mainland India. While I do not refute your post, I'm amazed USA or UK do not face such problems. The answer is because they have strong laws and independent intelligence agencies to take care of that. The moment a secessionist raises its head, it is crushed.

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We will have to understand that when this country gets united for Indian cricket than why not for its welfare, are we the people of India so unaware so stupid that any political party or leader can use us.
Was that a solution?

Bottom-line is education alone cannot make or break India. Government policies can. You are free to debate!!!
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I think the awareness among people regarding their basic responsibility for the sake of their country is somewhat lacking. There need to be taken certain measures so that people can be knowledgeable enough and the feeling of patriotism can be increased.
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I guess one thing to note is that it happens in Kashnmir Nagaland, but why not in Mumbai or Bengluru, I guess because there the peolple are well educated busy in their good work they dont involve in such stupid stuffs, I believe that we need to educate people and inculcate the feeling of one nationhood. We will have to understand that when this country gets united for Indian cricket than why not for its welfare, are we the people of India so unaware so stupid that any political party or leader can use us
Because, Kashmir and Nagaland are sharing their borders with some enemy nations who are always trying to separate some territories from India. Foreign powers are creating false propaganda amongst the masses. It's also easier for them to offer support to the bordering states. that's why they target them first. it's not only a matter of education.
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